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good morning and welcome to "this week." sexting scandal. >> how many women were there? >> six to ten maybe. >> breaking overnight. anthony weiner's campaign manager steps down. and judy smith, the crisis expert who inspired the hit show "scandal." plus there they go again. >> that's called being a deadbeat. >> all fizzle and no fake. >> back to the brink of the fall? we take that on with treasury secretary jack lew. and our power house round table. and george will and jeremy schaap on baseball's black eye.
all that ahead this sunday morning. hello again, let's get right to the breaking news in the new york mayor's race, anthony weiner's campaign manager quit after the new revelations that weiner's sexting continued even as he plotted the comeback run for mayor. abc's jeff zeleny is here with all the latest. and jeff, the campaign manager is gone, but weiner seems determined to stay in the race. >> reporter: that's right, but despite the setback, anthony weiner just taped a new campaign commercial and staying in the race. even as the humiliation threatens his candidacy. the resignation of anthony weern's campaign manager, just the latest bow for a campaign that looks like it's on the the brink. >> i have to hope we get back to the issues that people care about. >> reporter: the famously brash new yorker struggling to halt an unending barrage. mocked by late night comics. >> he's out on the campaign, it's the tour de pants. >> reporter: check out the
yorker magazine. his former colleagues taking shots. >> it's so disrespectful of women. and what's really stunning about it, they don't even realize it. they don't have a clue. >> reporter: everyone, it seems, is piling on. >> let me finish my thought -- >> reporter: even at his own campaign events. this confrontation came at his most recent stop. >> had i conducted myself in the manner in which you conducted yours, my job would have been gone. >> reporter: others showed up to tell him to drop out. >> degrading women. and, i wouldn't vote for him either. >> reporter: it can't seem to get much worse for weiner. all sparked by the stunning and bizarre second revelation of sexting. >> it is not dozens and dozens, it is -- it is six to ten, i suppose. >> then there was his wife's uncomfortable defense. >> i love him. i have forgiven him. i believe in him. rb and capped off by one of his
sexting partners going public with steamy photos on tmz. >> he's responsible for his downfall. >> reporter: despite the calls to step down, he's staying in the race hoping new yorkers grow tired of it all. >> it's not up to you or me, voters make the decision. >> reporter: his biggest challenge is forgiving and forgetting takes time. he's already fallen sharply in the polls. and now with his campaign manager stepping down, he is left to call his own shots. george? >> we'll have more on that. but breaking news in the nsa spy case. we are joined by glenn greenwald, with new reporting on the domestic surveillance program. thanks for joining us. the new reporting zeroes in on one of the most explosive claims made by snowden a few weeks back. let's take a look. >> and i sitting at my desk certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your
accountant to a federal judge, to everyone the president if i had a personal e-mail. >> now that claim was denied by intelligence officials, and the chair of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers said he was lying. but your new reporting bolsters snowden's claim. >> right. one of the most amazing parts of the episode have been that james
clapper an others lied to the american congress, which everyone acknowledges, about what the nsa is doing. it's amazing he hasn't been prosecuted but still has his job. it lets national security officials continue to lie to the public, which happened in exchange you just referenced. the way that i know exactly what they have the capability to do when spying on americans, the story i'm working on for the last month, publishing this week, very yearly sets forth what these programs are that nsa analysts, low level one, not just those who work for the nsa
but private contractors like mr. snowden. the nsa, they have trillions of phone calls in their database that they have collected. they are simple screens like the ones that supermarket clerks use, they have to enter an e-mail address or ip address and it does two things. it searches that database and lets them listen to the calls or read the e-mails of everything that the nsa has stored, or look at the browsing histories, or google search terms, and alerts them to any further
activity that people connected to the e-mail address or ip address have in the future. it's done with no need to go to court. with no need to get even supervisory approval. there are legal constraints for spying on americans, you can't target them without going to the fisa court. but these systems allow analysts to listen to whatever e-mails day want. whatever telephone calls, browsing histories, microsoft
word documents. it's a powerful and invasive tool that he described. they are going to go before the senate on wednesday, and i defy them to deny that it works the way i just said. >> do we have any evidence that capability -- pretty explosive capability, that it was used? >> there's lots of evidence of abuse. your network, abc news and brian ross, several years ago, nsa
analysts got caught listening to telephone conversations between soldiers and girlfriends stations in iraq. and the nsa has wildly exceeded the scope of the legal limits that the law allows. there are all sorts of admissions, including this week in a letter to senator wyden that it exceeded the legal authority it acknowledges it has. and they write it off to inadvertent key strokes. the realy issue is they have de
this in complete secrecy. nobody monitors who they're eavesdropping on. the question of abuse is one congress should be investigating. >> i know you have been in contact with snowden, it seems he's prepared to stay in russia, will that be possible and what russia will decide? >> well, i think that what has happened is the united states is applying lots of pressure. it's probably at this point pending and will pend for a few more days or weeks before he gets the papers that he needs. but i thing at this point, he's happy there is to news out of russia. that allows the focus to be where he wants it to be, which is on the revelations on what they're doing, the incredible debate in the house of representatives this week where liberals and conservatives joined together to oppose nsa abuses. i think he's content with having nothing happen so the focus isn't on him, but the substance of the revelations that he came forward to shine light on. >> okay, glen greenwald, thanks very much. and more from the two top officials in the senate,
republican saxby chambliss, and dick durbin. you're the vice chair of the intelligence committee right now. would it surprise you if it turns out what he's reporting there is true? that low-level officials have the capability to read e-mails, net traffic, listen to phone calls? >> george, it wouldn't just surprise me, shock me. i was at the nsa just last week. spent a couple hours out there with high and low level nsa
officials. what i have been assured of is there is no capability at nsa for anyone without a court order to listen to any telephone conversation or to monitor any e-mail. in fact we don't monitor e-mails. that's what kind of assures me that what the reporting is is not correct. because no e-mails are monitored now. they used to be, but that stopped two or three years ago. so i feel confident that -- that there may have been some abuse, but if it was, it was pure
accidental. >> senator durbin, do you believe that, and second, talk about the vote referenced. the close vote in the house this week where the nsa collection program survived. but democratic colleagues are pushing to end it as well, where do you stand on that? >> this was an amazing vote. we came within six votes of challenging an intelligence operation. that doesn't happen very often. hardly at all.
it's an indication of a healthy democracy where the oversight of congress on even security issues is important. the last time i called this same issue for a vote, an amendment i offered the senator judiciary committee, senator mike lee, republican of utah and i co-sponsored it, only one other senator joined us in that vote. it's clear the sentiment is growing for oversight. with the senators pushing for it, it's going to increa that
effort for oversight. that's a healthy thing. >> will you vote for that amendment? >> yes, i will. i sponsored it. i believe we should limit the meta data collection. the notion we're going to collect all of the phone records of everyone living in an area code on the off-chance that someone in that area code may be a suspect at a later time goes way too far. and there should be another step, the fisa courts, there should be a real court proceeding. in this case, it's fixed in a way, it's loaded.
there's only one case coming before the fisa's case. it's the government's case. let's have an advocate for someone standing up for civil liberties to speak up about the privacy of americans when they make the decisions, and release some of the transcripts, carefully redacted so people understand the debate in the courts. >> so senator chambliss, support for ending that program seems to be growing. can you defeat the amendment, number one, and number two, what kind of reforms can you support?
>> well, certainly it's good to have a healthy debate on this issue, george. i agree with dick that the right kind of oversight is absolutely necessary. we have got oversight of this program. both by the department of justice, by nsa, by the fisa court, by the intelligence committees, by the judiciary committee. there is no other program in the intelligence community that has as much oversight as this one, because people deserve to have their privacy protected.
and i do think that we're going to have to make some changes to make things more transparent. whether we should go as far as what dick's alluded to, i'm not sure what that jeopardizes as a program. let's don't forget, we have got to reach the right kind of balance between protecting americans and giving 100% protection on the privacy side. we should never invade any american citizen's privacy. but we've also got a
responsibility as policymakers to make sure that our intelligence community and our law enforcement community has the tools with which to provide the kind of protection that we've had since 9/11. if we'd had this program pre-9/11, we know there's a good chance we would have intercepted the phone calls between one of the 9/11 hijackers in san diego at a safe house he was calling in yemen. and we were monitoring the safe house, but we weren't monitoring the calls coming out of the united states. section15 would have picked those phone calls up. who knows what might not have happened on 9/11 if that had been the case. >> i want to get to another story breaking over the weekend, the violence in egypt. up to 80 people dead after the military cracked down on protesters in the muslim brotherhood. senator durbin, is it time for the administration to take a different tack, to take a tougher tack now with the military regime? maybe threaten more penalties or economic sanctions? >> this is a delicate time in egypt. clearly they are searching for .
the events over the weekend don't help at all. we've had a positive relationship between the united states and the egyptian military, i want to maintain that. but we should make it clear in egypt as we made it clear in libya and syria, that firing on your own people is unacceptable by any government. and in this situation, if it's established this came from government sources, it appears it did, we have to make it clear to the egyptians that that's unacceptable conduct. >> senator chambliss? >> it's further proof, george, that going from a dictatorship to a democracy is very, very hard. and we do need to make sure that there is some sort of peaceful stability? in egypt. exactly what the role of the united states should be there is difficult determine. they have been our ally for decades. and here all of a sudden we are seeing a move in the right direction, a mrds
democracy. but we have got to be careful that we don't inject ourselves too much into the situation because it will probably make it worse. we need to send a clear and strong message to the egyptian military that we're not going to tolerate from a friendly-nation relationship standpoint the kind of violence that we saw over the weekend. but it is a very, very delicate, sensitive situation that's ongoing there. >> senator chambliss, senator durbin, thank you very much for your time this morning. >> thanks, george. up next. the threats are back. with it stop the economy's slow recovery? jack lew and our powerhouse roundtable are next. plus -- >> whatever happens, there's always another move. whatever happens, i do not give up. >> anthony weiner is taking the advice from the hit show "scandal." and coming up, the crisis adviser, judy smith, who inspired that role joins the
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>> in white house shorthand, the pivot. president obama did it with big speeches designed to get the country mind him on the economic debates dividing washington, the government shutdown and the prospect of default are looming again. jack lew and the roundtable here to weigh in on that. first rebecca jarvis looks at where things stand on the economy. >> reporter: it's the tale of two economies. >> what brings you? >> looking for a car. two cars, actually. >> reporter: he says business is booming. he's seen a big increase in sales since the start of may. >> we have a lot more customers, a lot more traffic and real buyers. >> reporter: then there's the other story, 11.8 million americans without work. more than 4 million for six months or longer. on a scale of one to ten, how difficult is it to find a job? >> i would say right now it's about an eight. >> repgain
triggering a washington blame game. >> this endless parade of distractions and political posturing and phoney scandals, washington's taken its eye off the ball. >> our country has fallen into the new normal of slow growth, high unemployment and stagnant wages. >> reporter: there are signs of improvement, stocks at all-time high, corporate america turning out record profits, and home sales up. but unemployment remains stubbornly high, and americans are skeptical about the recovery. 82% say the economy is in fair or poor condition. if washington can't get it together this fall, then what? >> if they can't raise the debt ceil, fund the government into the next fiscal year, it's a mess. the risks are significant. go back into recession. >> reporter: for "this week." rebecca jarvis, abc news, new york. >> thanks for that. now to jack lew, thank you so much for joining us. we heard mark zandi say that
washington can hurt the recovery if it mishandles the false showdowns. first is over the funding of the government. the president said he's going to veto bills that fail to roll back the sequester. house republicans are going to insist on those spending cuts. are we heading to a government shutdown? >> i think it is imperative that washington be part of the solution, not the problem. we can't afford self-inflicted wounds, and have these self-created crisis month after month, year after year. >> isn't that where we're headed? >> we saw how bad it was in 2011. and we hope the congress learned that was not the way to do business. the president said we have to remember what we're here today, we're here to build an economy with opportunity for the american middle class. he's trying to remind washington what the people of america know, this is about their future. we need to roll up sleeves and get the work done. >> i know that's it, but is he
going to insist that any government funding bills roll back the sequester? >> he's made clear he's not going to sign appropriation bills that fix defense at the expense of domestic priorities. when congress does its work in the fall, he's going to be looking to see building a better future for the american middle class. those are values shared by the american people, and values shared by a majority in congress, and i think we're going to be able to work through these issues, and i certainly hope that congress isn't looking to create confrontations and false crisis. we saw in 2011 how bad that is for the american economy. >> you saw the crisis in 2011 and the economic harm it did, there is another standoff. the president says he's not going to negotiate. speaker boehner says he will insist on more spending cuts. how do you come together on that? >> it's important to remember how much we have done since 2011. you know, when we had these
debates in 2011, we hadn't enacted the savings or revenue measures we have now put in place. we have on multiple occasions come together in a bipartisan way through the budget control act, we reduced spending, at the beginning of this year, we acted to remove the tax breaks for the very wealthy. we need to get the composition right. this is not just about cutting budgets, we have to have the fiscal house in order, it's about building the foundation for a strong economy. i think there's a basis to work together on that. if the debate is just about abstract numbers, frankly, it misses the point. this is about building a better future. >> i understand those are the president's ideas and you believe strongly in them. but i don't see the kind of basis for building on that that you're talking about. it seems like the sides are dug in right now. >> you know, george, i have talked to people in congress, both sides, democrats and republicans, talked to leaders, you know, members and senators. there's a majority in congress
that wants to replace the across the board cuts with more sensible policies. our challenge is breaking through the logjam in congress to get that done. >> that's the question, how are you going to do it? >> what's the president's done is provided a clear frame with the stakes before the congress and the american people. i think if this is about what we want to accomplish, let's have a debate about what it takes to build an american middle class that's growing and thriving. not just social policy, it's good economic policy. it's actually improving the economy. >> but the bottom line is the same, the president is not going to negotiate over the debt limit. if that's the case, aren't we headed for the showdown you fear? >> you know, i think that a lot of people watched 2011 and learned from it that it was a big mistake. i think that the leaders learned from that, that's not a good way to do business. congress has to act on this. they're going to have to figure
out t. >> if that includes spending reductions, the president will sign it? >> i think the president's made crystal clear he's not going to negotiate over the debt limit. i have to underscore how important that is. the mere fact of negotiating after the debt limit after 2011 would introduce this notion that somehow there's a question about whether or not we're going to pay the bills, protect the full faith and credit of the united states. it's not okay to default. congress can't let us default. they have to do their work. >> will you ask senator reid to pass the clean debt limit first? >> congress is going to have to pass a debt limit that can reach bipartisan consensus and the congress and the president can sign it into law. >> perhaps the most consequential decision the president it going to make is the decision to replace fed chairman ben bernanke. it seems for the two main candidates, governor janet yellin, and larry summers, the former economic adviser, speaker
pelosi and about a third of the senate dmrkemocrats have weighen on a woman candidate. which side are you on, you're part of the discussions, and what is the president looking for in a fed chair? >> i have to start by saying that chairman bernanke is and remains an extraordinary fed chairman. i'm going to keep private any conversations we're having with the president on the question of when and what kind of succession there should be. i think that those conversations are best left in the privacy of the oval office. >> but it suggests that she will be easier to confirm than larry summers. is that a factor? >> i'm not going get into commenting on different candidates potential paths. the conversations should stay where they are. >> let me ask about the situation facing detroit, filing for federal bankruptcy last week.
the governing board of the flco has weighed in strongly saying that the federal government must step up and provide assistance to detroit. is that going to be coming? >> george, detroit's economic problems have been a long time in developing. we stand with detroit trying to work through how it approaches the issues. to the extent there are normal relations between the federal government and state and local government, we have been using those methods. even in the treasury department, we have a program where we work to help with housing programs. i think when it comes to the questions between detroit and its creditors, that's what detroit is going to have to work out with the creditors. >> so federal bailout off the table. >> i think they're going to have to work with their creditors. >> that's the last word. secretary lew, thanks very much. more from the roundtable joined by george will, peggy noonan, former counsellor to the obama
treasury department, steven rattner. and katrina vanden heuvel. let me go back, the president is not going to negotiate over the debt limit, but it's going to work out. the white house is betting that the republicans are going to cave. >> the republicans know this is a weak lever to move the world. the debt ceiling always gets raised. what interested me about what he said was, he's looking back and saying the recovery is as bad as it is, and it is bad, is what happened in the summer of 2011 over the debt ceiling. that's pretty -- >> that did hurt confidence, didn't it? >> let's look at the recovery, george. now in the fifth year of a recovery. there are 2.2 million fewer jobs than there were in the pre-recession. four and a half years in now, and after the recession of -- of 1981, '82, we were back in 12 months. 31% of americans 18-35 are living with their parents. that ought to scare parents.
>> that's one of the reasons the president gave the speech. he said he wanted to break this destructive damaging framework, focusing on deficits in washington. he wants to get back to investments that will create jobs. >> this is where i wish he had been for a while. he's gone to the american people, exposed the republicans as the wrecking crew. if he hadn't sabotaged him in the last couple of years, we would have seen the common sense policies the president is now advocating for in infrastructure, health care, education. this is what we need to break the terrible inequality that's not simply a moral problem, but a bad economic political problem. we're on a better course, but it's going require the support of people outside. and you see in the democratic party, a new level of commitment as social issues unify them, elizabeth warren, sherrod brown, they have brought broader, more populist voices. >> i agree with that, but peggy noonan, the president going back
to the country one more time, it's unclear that these speeches are doing much to move public opinion, much less washington. >> yeah, i think that's true. when the white house calls it a pivot, somebody said it's probably the tenth pivot to the economy the president has done since he came in. i noticed that one of the speeches it went over an hour. there was a heck of a lot jammed in. that tells me something, it said we're not sure exactly what to say, so we're going say everything, but a speech about everything is a speech about nothing. beyond that, i think every president in the intense media environment we have now, certainly every two-term president, gets to a point where the american people stop listening, stop leaning forward hungrily for information. i think this president got there earlier than most presidents. and i think he's in that time now. >> in a more fractured media environment as well, steven
rat rat -- ratner, if speeches don't do the job, is there anything congress -- if congress isn't going to do the job, is there anything the president can do on his own? >> he said he was going to use executive authority, there are various levers and things, he mentioned detroit, there are bits and pieces. >> detroit, he's not going to follow your advice that you wrote about with the federal assistance. >> we'll get to that. i have a different view. we have a system of government that requires consent from the congressional branch as well as from the executive branch. there's a limit on what he can do. i think he's doing the right thing to go out and call out, needs to do something on the economy. i find it extraordinary we're living in a world of 7.6% unemployment. i'll agree the recovery is certainly slower than anyone could want. congress is doing nothing. they passed 30% fewer bills than any other congress in modern history. this congress has passed fewer
still. you may say it's great, pass fewer laws. but there's work to be done, and congress should do it. >> passing fewer laws, but comparable to previous congresses in legislative pages. they just jump them into come prehence i have legislation. your argument is that republicans are at fault because of the 753,000 jobs created this year, 575,000 have been part-time. but it's not the republican's fault that work force participation has declined during the recovery. >> first of all, we have accepted in this country a level of joblessness that should not be the new normal. but if you had a republican party that was willing to do common sense things that republican parties of previous years, eisenhower, investing in infrastructure, for example, you would have seen the ability to see growth. and that has not happened. you had a speaker, john boehner last week who said his job is to repeal, not pass legislation. that is not a constructive congress at a time when i would agree, this recovery is fragile.
i think that is the function of a country and a party, both parties, which have said that austerity -- deficit reduction is more important than addressing joblessness. that's the problem in these last few years. that is the real crisis. >> peggy, the pressure created by the sequester, real cuts, causes some republicans to join democrats to try to undo it. >> maybe that will happen. i haven't heard about negotiations or talks or serious signaling that is going on, which is something that always confuses me a little bit about this administration. katrina, i think part of the problem here is that the president at some point decided these republicans can't be dealt with. they're recalcitrant, it just can't work. my feeling is no president can say that. you got to try to make it work. tip o'neill disliked the
president, they made it work. it always seems there's a lack of sway in this white house. >> the president's going up to the hill this week to meet with congress leaders. you can say what you want, but the house republicans want not just sequester, the appropriations bills are far deeper cuts, massive cuts. look at the transportation bill, cut $5 billion, the senate wants to add $5 billion. the house is not just saying sequester, it's a terrible things, we're cutting infrastructure, cutting r&d, cutting the stuff we should be investing in. but i think the president has gone to the hill, had them to the white house, out in the field and trying to make his case. >> these republicans may cripple the credit markets in order to ensure 30 million americans do not have health care. we speak from the progressive side of the aisle. people have been frustrated that
the president has been unwilling to call out the republicans. there was a lot of playing footsie in 2011. where did that get him? i don't know where it heads, because this republican party is not interested in legitimate, fair, common sense compromise. >> toward the end of the speech that threatened never to end, the president gave his idea of reaching out to republican s. you know, there are a lot of republicans who agree with me, they tell me so in private, trust me. but he said they're afraid of their constituents, they won't do it. in other words, there are a few intelligent republican who is recognize the brilliance of my policies, but they're moral cowards. now that's his approach to the republicans? >> i love partisan alliances. we have agreed on things over time. the most exciting thing in congress last week were the two coming together to say enough to nsa surveillance without accountability. >> it did not pass, however. we have to take a break. quickly back to you, steve.
on the question detroit bailout. you managed the auto bailout. the president wrote a piece saying he should consider federal assistance. jack lew is there, comment on it. >> there is a difference between a bailout and rescuing the credit and avoiding the bankruptcy process and some help. i recognize washington is not going to undo this default and pay off the bondholders. but you have a situation where 80% of the pain is borne by the workers and retirees if it goes through. you have a situation, i have read that whole plan, and i don't believe it can solve detroit's problems. they need investment, that's where the federal government and the state should help. >> can't solve the problems. the problems are cultural. you have a city, 139 square file miles, you can graze cattle in vast portions of it. dangerous herds of feral dogs there. 3% of fourth graders reading at the national math standards.
they are functionally illiterate. 79% of detroit children are born to unmarried mothers. they don't have a fiscal problem. they have a cultural collapse. >> that's insulting to the people of detroit. there's a serious discussion about the future of cities in a time of deindustrialization. but they have been a victim of market forces, and i think what steve said is so critical. retirees and workers should not bear this. and it should not be about greedy public unions and about fiscal responsibility -- >> he said the people are no more to blame than the victims of hurricane sandy, because apart from voting, you said. what did they vote for? for 60 years, incompetence, malcontents. and in some cases, criminals. >> get the last word. >> that's fine, leave them sitting in exactly the situation you just describes, or in the
spirit of america trying to help people who are less fortunate, victims of natural disasters or their own ignorance or whatever, reach out and try to help them and reinvent detroit for a couple billion dollars, this is small potatoes, or leave them sit with feral dogs for the rest of their lives? >> anarchy. >> we have to take a break. coming up, looking at summer of scandal, anthony weiner to ryan braun. juddy smith will join the roundtable, and we will weigh in on steroids in baseball. y smith, and we will talk about steroids in baseball. one that's 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy. and costs 77% less. it's called hp moonshot. and it's giving the internet the room it needs to grow. this going to be big. it's time to build a better enterprise. together.
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he was texting women under the name carlos dangers. this is weiner's way of getting more latino support. i'll use -- i'll be carlos danger. yeah. >> he apologized, said this will never happen, or my name isn't carlos danger. >> yes, even after the sexting scandal that ended his congressional career, it turns out he learned nothing. has this man never heard of snap chat? >> something for the late night comics, anthony weiner. joined by judy smith, who helped create the hit show "scandal." you've had no shortage of high profile clients in tough spots, monica lewinsky, michael vick,
paula deen. i was surprised you wouldn't take anthony weiner as a client. >> well, no, look, first of all it's apparent he's not listening, his campaign manager just quit. i think he has so many problems. but the main issue is he comes out, he says please forgive me to the american public, and then we're all shocked to find out that this has continued. and not like sort of the usual politician having an affair, there's an element of creepiness to this. and i think that the american people feel that. and i think people are saying, look, step down. it's not about you, it's about the people that you say that you want to represent. i mean, look he's trying so hard to put the genie back in the bottle, it's not going to happen. you can't do it. >> seems like he's not going to quit even though the poll numbers are plummeting. >> yeah, what's mysterious is not will he get out, why did he get in?
he knew the history, he knew what he would be visiting on new york. it all seems to me quite mad. and i think -- i mean, i think his behavior has been quite clinically sick. and i think we will find out in the democratic primary if indeed the voters are sick. >> that's the truth. >> i don't think we're going to get to that point. >> you think he's going to get out? >> i think he has to. i think the consequences, maybe about that -- the consequence for him, for whatever future, the private sector, 5 or 10%, a small number in the primary are overwhelming. >> but, you know, i think that new yorkers -- leave it to new yorkers. you see the polls imploding already. but i have to say, as a life-long new yorker, this is such a turnoff, a distraction from the real scandals of the city. to get serious for a moment, the inequality in the city a
scandal. when was the last time you fixed on that? there is one candidate speaking to that in a coherent way. but otherwise until anthony weiner's sexting leaves the race, it's the option thing. >> it may be an opposite calculation, if he stays in the race, even if he doesn't do all that well, it's flush through the system. >> i will not dwell on the fact, although it is a fact, filner in san diego and weiner here were republicans, this would be a lot of somber sociology on the republican war on women. i will skip that. i will go instead to the fact what explains this man is the animal neediness for public gratification. there are people like this. got out of college. went to work on the congressional staff, became the youngest member of the new york city council, ran for the house. he can't live without this. what strikes me is, you talk as a new yorker, new york city was
the incubator of the heroic period of american liberalism, roosevelt, francis perkins, secretary of labor, first female member of the congress. louisiana guard yay, and this is what new york liberalism now is? >> what surprised a lot of people, not surprising that anthony weiner wants to stay in, but his wife, close aid to hillary clinton, gives her first press conference on tuesday after the new revelations. in the past with other candidates, when the wife stands by them, it seems to make a difference. seems less likely this time. >> absolutely. it's really a personal choice to decide that. but it made no difference whatsoever, because his behavior is just reprehensible. clearly, he has sort of an interest in keeping the late night talk show host folks going with it, but he needs to step down. he's sort of engaging in the same behavior as the -- as the mayor. which is that --
>> the mayor? >> i'm sorry. in san diego. >> as -- you should say, charged with sexual harassment, seven women have come forward. he's not going to resign, take two weeks off to get treatment. >> two weeks to -- but to fix the problem. >> i'm going to pick up on what george said about the war on women. first of all, many democratic women have come forward to say this is reprehensible. this is odious what we're seeing in san diego with the mayor, with anthony weiner, but it's simplistic to draw on the misdeeds of a few. and let's not forget sexual harassment is not to one party, visitor, gingrich. but it's not one party. it's the policies that affect all women. and discrimination and harassment, and how to protect women and giving them public policy tools to live their lives
in full. across the board, the republican party has gutted the rights on reproductive rights, protection from sexual harassment and discrimination, domestic abuse, equal pay. these are issues that affect all women. >> that's what i call a pivot. >> yeah. >> i didn't hear you. >> done well, done well. >> yeah. >> just one more pivot as well, just to pick up on the point, does this blow back on democrats with having both filner, eliot spitzer in the race for comptroller here, weiner all at the same time? >> no, because it is something that affects both parties, mark sanford or whomever. it's individuals who have issues. i don't think it's a broader point about politics or anything. it's a bunk of people who are narcissistic, sick, whatever judy would classify them as. >> all of the above. i think spitzer's done a good job of addressing the elephant from the room in his ads. he's made a mistake, here to serve. he's taking a lower position, comptroller, trying to get that.
by saying let me reengage and build back up the trust from the public. that's important instead of weiner jumping in, one -- >> crisis management lesson number one, you can't lie in your apology. >> yes, very poor form. >> absolutely. >> we'll be watching to see if steve is right and he gets out of the race. thank you. a quick break. george wills talking about major league baseball, and joined by espn's jeremy to get the latest on the steroid scandal. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven.
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if i had done this intentionally or unintentionally, i would be the first one to step up and say i did it. i truly believe in my heart, and i would bet my life that this
substance never entered my body at any point. >> the more you think about it, it's disappointing, that's a great word, for the game, and as one of the guys who defended ryan braun, it's unbelievably disappointing. >> he did come clean this week, out for the rest of the season. suspended. another black eye for baseball, there is more to come. we want to get the latest from george will, jeremy schaap of espn. a lot of rumors swirling around alex rodriguez, many others. what's your best reporting on how far it's going to reach and when it's going to break? >> we think in a couple weeks. maybe a little bit longer. alex rodriguez and 20 other players in the majors and in the minors will be suspended. rodriguez is a special case because -- >> he's fighting it, right? >> he's fighting in the media in new york. but it's presumed he's fighting it with major league baseball. there's the possibility of a lifetime ban. not only does baseball believe
he was cheating, not only does it believe that he lied to them about it, but that he tried to undermine its investigation. so he's a special case. >> lifetime ban, that would be the seriousness about cleaning this up. >> the sea change here, the seriousness on the part of the players themselves. george, in 2011, the brewers played the diamondbacks in a five-game playoff. they beat the diamondbacks three games to two. in that series, ryan braun was 9 for 18, four rbis. he almost certainly was cheating. the players know he took money out of their pocketbooks, and the player's association changed in response to the constituency, the players themselves. for years, the player's association treated this as a privacy issue, a civil rights issue, this resistance to testing. it's like smoking cigarettes, it's a bad habit, but no concere
the players have changed their minds. >> agree with that? >> it's totally changed. the leadership at the player's union, the rank and file thinking about this has changed entirely. and that is an essential element here. but it's still worrisome that there's no real deterrent, the way there is in other sports like track and field and cycling. it was pete rose, who knows something about crime and punishment, who said the other day in cooperstown, there's no too many people who wouldn't take the deal that ryan braun seems to have made, you get $120 million, and give back $3 million. so until baseball approaches this with even greater punishment, and doing a better job than the other pro leagues, we're going to have a problem. >> it does suggest that someone is going to have to get a real permanent ban. ryan braun could be back making a whole lot of money. >> a subsequent collective bargaining agreement with the players, you may find there's a mechanism for voiding the
contracts. voiding the, i don't know how many scores of millions of dollars braun still has coming. >> about 120. >> million. >> $88 million for rodriguez. if you can void contracts, that's the hammer. >> about a minute left. and a big change for the chicago cubs. wrigley field going to have a jumbotr jumbotron. >> and advertising. the problem is, it's been a baseball williamsburg. a quaint art fact. but not serious. and the cubs find unless they can generate revenue, they can't compete with the more modern venues to put a better team on the field. >> they had no choice, did they? >> they had no choice, but some of the people who have the rooftop exposure, they're a little bit upset. how many signs and score boards they put up is less consequence than the lack of pennants they have put. >> thank you very much for your insight. and in the sunday spotlight
today, we remember an american treasure with a special connection to "this week." lindy boggs, congresswoman, ambassador, and mother of our cokie roberts passed away yesterday at the age of 97. heartbreaking tragedy forced the spotlight on lindy boggs. >> she worked harder than anybody else, and this is for you from me. >> when the plane carrying her husband disappeared in alaska. >> 70 planes up over southern alaska searching for the twin engine cessna. >> i hope to be the congresswoman you expect me to be. >> she had run her husband's campaign, and was carrying on his work. but it didn't take her long to make a personal mark. >> lindy boggs from the great state of louisiana. >> louisiana native who grew up on a plantation, she became a champion for civil rights and equal rights for women. >> lindy boggs.
>> thank you, mr. chairman. >> using her seat on the banking committee to help women get credit cards without their husband's permission. as she told cokie, her role model was another trailblazer. >> you got to washington, eleanor roosevelt was first lady. >> she was my inspiration. >> boggs served 17 years in congress. the first woman to chair a political convention, then ambassador to the vatican. >> what is it about john paul that makes him so accessible and inspiring to the younger generation? >> his total repoire with them. he believes in them. >> boggs retired in 1990. a washington fixture famous for her southern charm, she never forgot lessons learned in the louisiana she loved. >> i suppose all women, but mostly southern women do what they do when they have to do it. and you just don't think about whether you should be doing it or not if you're called upon to do something, you do it.
>> what a lovely presence she was. our thoughts are with cokie and her family this morning. now we honor our fellow americans who serve and sacrifice. this week, the pentagon released the name of four soldiers killed in afghanistan. and that is all for us today, thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news" with david muir tonight. i'll see you tomorrow on "gma."
>> in the news this sunday, the latest on the fatal head-on collision in san leandro. how fast officers say one of the drivers was going. and developing news. san jose police search for a suspect who got away after an officer is injured during a chase. >> good morning. from our roof camera, lots of fog and overcast conditions dominating the sky today downtown with slow clearing elsewhere. we are looking at sunshine in livermore and san jose. i'll have your forecast and let you know when we are going to warm up next on t